Scoring 8 points in a championship game and getting outscored by Jason Terry in that series removed him from the GOAT debate. And all of it happened after forming a super team. Not 1, not 2, not 3 but 8 whopping points in the finals!
BIRD SWEPT JORDAN REMOVE HIM FROM TOP 10. PILING UP 1 STAT ONLY TO LOOK NICE IN PUBLIC AFTER U SHOOT YO TEAM OUT OF GAME AND GOT SWEPT. PLUS BRON PLAYED VS TEAM THAT SWEPT KOBE AND DURANT WHILE MJ GOT SWEPT BY MONCRIEF NOT EVEN VOTED 75 BEST EVER MERANWHILE NOWITZKI KIDD ARE TOP 75
@@bigcuh5856Just did, and you lied. StatMuse has MJ with 4 more 30 point games than L-bron, which is partly why he averages 3 more ppg than him. Cope harder. 😂
Wilt is the greatest scorer in NBA history.
Turns out history is important when talking about history.
(For reference, Wilt has 98 more 40-point games than Jordan, 87 more 50-point games than Jordan, and 28 more 60-point games. And a note on 60-point games: there have been 90 60-point games, and wilt has 32 of them.)
3x betrayed his teams to join superteams
5,000+ TURNOVERS (AND COUNTING)
20 STRAIGHT MISSED 3PT SHOTS STREAK
120 Teammates Traded
8 Head coaches fired
3x Swept by opponents
14,485 Most Missed field goals (AND COUNTING)
104 Most playoff losses
110 Most NBA finals freethrow missed
33 Most NBA finals losses
10 Most NBA allstar losses
Holds the record of most walkouts before the game ends.
The only player to get swept in 3 different decades.
Changed standard of sport that stats is more important than winning.
There’s the real reason why LeBron isn’t the goat he’s the woat in too many stats too!
Their respectively different approach to winning and greatness shouldn’t diminish either Lebron nor MJ.
Just maybe Lebron’s approach to basketball games doesn’t need to score so much (as Michael did) to win games..
We can all clearly see that even though Lebron is an accomplished scorer in his own right, his approach to basketball isn’t to score a bunch of points himself, but rather to distribute the scoring to his teammates and distribute the defensive execution as well. Jordan and Jordan teams clearly put a whole lot more scoring responsibilities on MJ. No surprise MJ has more 30 points games still.
Your entire premise is destroyed when you examine their respective W/L records, which you would expect to favor L-bron if your assumption that “sharing” makes one a better player.
Logic is hard, eh?
The facts are simple. MJ was literally 1v5ing far more defensively aggressive teams on the regular. LBJ dishes on poorly contested shots because he has no mid-range. Stats and video confirm both.
The fact that this is even a debate is astonishing. As soon as Lebron retires he’ll be just a statistic to beat and get out of the way. MJ will always be the reference Era.
Is not about what Jordan did, it’s about what he didn’t do.
Take a chair, sit down and watch “the decision” from beginning to end, let it sink and then think about what actual greatness mean.
Shooting isn’t even a solid argument for LeBron if we’re counting free throws and post ups, rebounding sure I mean the dude is taller and bigger so he should average more rebounds
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December 5, 2024 at 5:23 pm
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@tyrismaxey
December 5, 2024 at 9:48 pm
“… because Ernie knows more useless stuff than anybody in the world”
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@e.t.cetera7035
December 5, 2024 at 9:50 pm
Scoring 8 points in a championship game and getting outscored by Jason Terry in that series removed him from the GOAT debate. And all of it happened after forming a super team. Not 1, not 2, not 3 but 8 whopping points in the finals!
@zzzvain9710
December 6, 2024 at 3:27 am
MARION LOCKED BRON BUT ALSO SWEPT KOBE 2 WEEKS EARLIER AND HELD DURANT N 40% PLUS SWEPT HIM
@zzzvain9710
December 6, 2024 at 3:29 am
BIRD SWEPT JORDAN REMOVE HIM FROM TOP 10. PILING UP 1 STAT ONLY TO LOOK NICE IN PUBLIC AFTER U SHOOT YO TEAM OUT OF GAME AND GOT SWEPT. PLUS BRON PLAYED VS TEAM THAT SWEPT KOBE AND DURANT WHILE MJ GOT SWEPT BY MONCRIEF NOT EVEN VOTED 75 BEST EVER MERANWHILE NOWITZKI KIDD ARE TOP 75
@youtubeisassho8834
December 6, 2024 at 3:55 am
@@zzzvain9710Marion locked L-Bron… end of story. Everything else is an excuse, and exposes the weakness of your argument and L-bron’s performance.
@kyle1559
December 5, 2024 at 10:02 pm
lebron is way below kobe skill wise. so hes not the goat. kobe most skilled player in history. bron is left handed but cant shoot left? comon guys.
@willkucards
December 5, 2024 at 10:25 pm
Mj was a better scorer, bron was better in the other stats
@Droneshotworld
December 5, 2024 at 10:25 pm
LeBron is the best player ever Jordan is the greatest
@alkebulanlion6198
December 5, 2024 at 11:57 pm
Mj the goat Kobe is better than bron
@jgg6932
December 6, 2024 at 12:30 pm
Kobe hasn’t been better than LeBron a day in his life bruh, LeBron is top 3 along with MJ and Kareem
@SongofIceandTea
December 6, 2024 at 12:28 am
Chuck praise and roast his boss at the same time, Chuck is the real GOAT 😂
@junghunt8645
December 6, 2024 at 1:35 am
Ernie ain’t the boss!
@chrislowe8212
December 6, 2024 at 10:39 am
His boss? What’s this 🤡 talking about coworker* is the word your looking for
@gforceink
December 6, 2024 at 12:32 am
now add the assists chuck 🤦🏾♂️ he’s like top 10 in like every stat category. not that’s TRULY PHENOMENAL
@beastmry
December 6, 2024 at 12:44 am
MJ is the greatest scorer in NBA history. Obviously he has more 30 point games. Dude literally averaged 30.
@bigcuh5856
December 6, 2024 at 12:47 am
he doesnt. lebron has more. this stat is false look it up
@youtubeisassho8834
December 6, 2024 at 3:42 am
@@bigcuh5856Just did, and you lied. StatMuse has MJ with 4 more 30 point games than L-bron, which is partly why he averages 3 more ppg than him. Cope harder. 😂
@nichodemus10
December 6, 2024 at 9:17 am
Wilt is the greatest scorer in NBA history.
Turns out history is important when talking about history.
(For reference, Wilt has 98 more 40-point games than Jordan, 87 more 50-point games than Jordan, and 28 more 60-point games. And a note on 60-point games: there have been 90 60-point games, and wilt has 32 of them.)
@NeilLewis77
December 6, 2024 at 9:29 am
@@nichodemus10no he isn’t.
Wild regularly choked in finals when asked to put up a big score.
Wilt was the greatest scorer when things were easy.
But when the going got tough, wilt couldn’t rise to the occasion like MJ..
@bigcuh5856
December 6, 2024 at 12:47 am
this is not even true. Lebron has 100+ more 30 point games then jordan
@RobertSchuster68
December 6, 2024 at 1:15 am
“No party is like a P-Diddy Party”, LeBron James (after he joined a “legendary” Party with the Diddler)
@CSGmusical
December 6, 2024 at 1:42 am
Unbreakable records by Lebron:
3x betrayed his teams to join superteams
5,000+ TURNOVERS (AND COUNTING)
20 STRAIGHT MISSED 3PT SHOTS STREAK
120 Teammates Traded
8 Head coaches fired
3x Swept by opponents
14,485 Most Missed field goals (AND COUNTING)
104 Most playoff losses
110 Most NBA finals freethrow missed
33 Most NBA finals losses
10 Most NBA allstar losses
Holds the record of most walkouts before the game ends.
The only player to get swept in 3 different decades.
Changed standard of sport that stats is more important than winning.
There’s the real reason why LeBron isn’t the goat he’s the woat in too many stats too!
@kevinminner9090
December 6, 2024 at 11:38 am
Great stats! To be fair, shld include MJs ranking in these categories
@jgg6932
December 6, 2024 at 12:30 pm
You big mad hahaha ❄️🤣
@Archiveref_
December 6, 2024 at 1:49 am
29:06 😹😹😹😹😹
@ManuelGonzalez-nu5bb
December 6, 2024 at 2:17 am
4th place in all time assists, easily would’ve broken that record if he was a scorer
@HoopmanX
December 6, 2024 at 2:59 am
Their respectively different approach to winning and greatness shouldn’t diminish either Lebron nor MJ.
Just maybe Lebron’s approach to basketball games doesn’t need to score so much (as Michael did) to win games..
We can all clearly see that even though Lebron is an accomplished scorer in his own right, his approach to basketball isn’t to score a bunch of points himself, but rather to distribute the scoring to his teammates and distribute the defensive execution as well. Jordan and Jordan teams clearly put a whole lot more scoring responsibilities on MJ. No surprise MJ has more 30 points games still.
@youtubeisassho8834
December 6, 2024 at 4:01 am
Your entire premise is destroyed when you examine their respective W/L records, which you would expect to favor L-bron if your assumption that “sharing” makes one a better player.
Logic is hard, eh?
The facts are simple. MJ was literally 1v5ing far more defensively aggressive teams on the regular. LBJ dishes on poorly contested shots because he has no mid-range. Stats and video confirm both.
@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect
December 6, 2024 at 3:28 am
The fact that this is even a debate is astonishing. As soon as Lebron retires he’ll be just a statistic to beat and get out of the way. MJ will always be the reference Era.
@VikCain
December 6, 2024 at 4:13 am
Is not about what Jordan did, it’s about what he didn’t do.
Take a chair, sit down and watch “the decision” from beginning to end, let it sink and then think about what actual greatness mean.
@sew04ss
December 6, 2024 at 5:28 am
Writers please notice mike shirt and let Malachi buck his eyes. We been tired of the black and now white patch
@wilsonjoshwilson
December 6, 2024 at 5:33 am
When it comes to all aspects of basketball(rebounding, passing, shooting, defense, etc.) it’s impossible to say Jordan is better than Lebron.
@muntasircooper2782
December 6, 2024 at 8:57 am
Defense definitely, what?? How many times has LeBron been MVP, Finals MVP and DPOY?? Or all defensive team in the same year??
@muntasircooper2782
December 6, 2024 at 8:58 am
Shooting isn’t even a solid argument for LeBron if we’re counting free throws and post ups, rebounding sure I mean the dude is taller and bigger so he should average more rebounds
@goodvibrations6
December 6, 2024 at 7:30 am
Chuck spit that thing you have in your mouth.
@priztucker
December 6, 2024 at 7:32 am
“Aww Thanks Chuck!”
“You’re Welcome”😅
@peterrossini6345
December 6, 2024 at 7:57 am
That stat says it all , Jordan scored enough to beat you
@CarlyTheCashout
December 6, 2024 at 9:20 am
I thought we were done with the 90’s LeBron is the Goat
@ericpubdeff8977
December 6, 2024 at 10:47 am
and MJ did it back when defense was more physical